{"id":2017,"date":"2024-04-08T23:41:34","date_gmt":"2024-04-08T23:41:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunowner-news.com\/?p=2017"},"modified":"2024-04-08T23:41:34","modified_gmt":"2024-04-08T23:41:34","slug":"gunfight-over-england-guns-of-the-battle-of-britain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunowner-news.com\/?p=2017","title":{"rendered":"Gunfight Over England: Guns of the Battle of Britain"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"byline\">By <a class=\"byline-author ajax-home\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/author\/tom-laemlein\/\">Tom Laemlein<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">T<\/span>he German bombers of 1940 had been designed as a support aircraft \u2014 ready to attack key targets in the enemy\u2019s rear areas. \u201cStrategic bombing\u201d was not an important part of the Luftwaffe strategy nor its preparation. Smaller twin-engine bombers like the Dornier Do 17 and the Junkers Ju 88 could be produced in greater numbers, faster, and more economically. They could also serve multiple roles compared to massive heavy bombers, and so the die was cast.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A close range gunfight over Britain: An illustration of a Spitfire downing a Dornier Do 17 from a British defense ministry poster. Image:\u00a0NARA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>As for the bombers themselves, there were some hopes in the 1930s that the aircraft designs would be fast enough to avoid interception. That notion was put to rest during Germany\u2019s Condor Legion operations during the Spanish Civil War. Polish and French air force fighters had also intercepted and downed German bombers during those short conflicts, but the Luftwaffe had not sent massed bomber formations against any previous foe.<\/p>\n<p>The raids against England would be considered massive for the time, and the Germans still had reason to believe their bombers\u2019 defensive guns could protect them against any Royal Air Force (RAF) fighters that managed to break through the Jagdwaffe fighter screen. This was flawed thinking as the Germans would soon learn \u2014 the RAF\u2019s radar-guided interceptor formations were like nothing the Luftwaffe had ever experienced.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"704\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight.jpg\" alt=\"In this black and white photograph, we see a Hawker Hurricane in flight over Great Britain during World War II.\" class=\"wp-image-51906\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight-800x402.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight-400x201.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight-768x386.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-in-flight-600x302.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Hawker Hurricane squadrons focused largely on intercepting German bombers. Image:\u00a0US Navy<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Even so, the Luftwaffe\u2019s original attacks on RAF airfields in the summer of 1940 were working, and despite their losses, the German bomber force was beginning to break the RAF\u2019s ability to defend England. But the Luftwaffe\u2019s switch to bombing English cities allowed Fighter Command to recover, and their ensuing focus took a terrible toll on the German bomber force.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Battling the Bombers<\/h2>\n<p>The Spitfire and Hurricane fighters carried the same armament \u2014 eight wing-mounted Browning .303 machine guns. In their battle against German bombers, it quickly became evident that the Browning .303 Mk II (1,150 rounds per minute) was most effective at less than 800 yards. Not only would RAF interceptors need to close the range to their target, but they would also need to find the most sensitive areas of the German bombers to knock them down.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"688\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns.jpg\" alt=\"This high resolution photo of a Hawker Hurricane clearly shows its 8 Browning machine guns in the leading edges of its wings.\" class=\"wp-image-51907\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns-800x393.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns-400x197.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns-768x377.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hawker-Hurricane-8-Browning-machine-guns-600x295.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A view of the Hurricane I\u2019s eight-gun battery of .303 Browning Mk II machine guns. Image:\u00a0NARA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>RAF fighter pilots soon learned that the harrowing head-on attack was their best opportunity for a kill. Despite the 500-mph closing speed and the abbreviated firing time, the equation was simple for the attacker. One Hurricane pilot commented\u00a0<em>\u201cOnce you knew how, a head-on attack was a piece of cake. When you opened fire, you\u2019d kill or wound the pilot and the co-pilot.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"876\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded.jpg\" alt=\"In this vintage photograph, RAF ground crews scramble to get a Hawker Hurricane reloaded during the Battle of Britain. \" class=\"wp-image-51908\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded-800x501.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded-400x250.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Hurricane-reloaded-600x375.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A <a class=\"ajax-article\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/hawker-hurricane\/\">Hawker Hurricane<\/a> refueling and reloading between missions in the summer of 1940. Image:\u00a0NARA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In this case, the devil was in the details of the German bomber designs. All of the German twin-engine bombers involved in the battle featured a large glass nose for its pilot and navigator. For most of the German bombing campaign of 1940, Luftwaffe bombers normally had but a single MG 15 (7.92mm) defending the front of the aircraft. Even though the RAF fighters carried rifle-caliber Browning .303 caliber wing guns, eight versus one equals a tremendous firepower advantage. Sending hits crashing through the glass nose of a bomber tended to bring about the kind of crew casualties that knocked a Junkers, Heinkel, or Dornier out of the fight, and often sent it crashing to Earth.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Last-Minute Ammunition Change<\/h2>\n<p>In 1939, the RAF conducted a series of tests using .303 and 7.92mm ammunition against a Blenheim light bomber\u2019s fuselage and the rear gunner\u2019s 4mm armor plate. The first test used armor-piercing ammunition and the results were notably poor. Fired from a range of 200 yards, just 6% of the .303 AP rounds penetrated, while a paltry 1% of the 7.92mm AP broke through.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"893\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming.jpg\" alt=\"In this early photograph from World War II, ground crews rush to rearm a Supermarine Spitfire Mk I so it can intercept German bombers over England.\" class=\"wp-image-51909\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-800x510.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-400x255.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-768x490.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-600x383.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rearming the eight .303 Browning Mk IIs of the <a class=\"ajax-article\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/the-armory-life-flies-a-british-spitfire\/\">Spitfire Mk. I<\/a>. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In the incendiary ammunition tests against the Blenheim\u2019s self-sealing fuel tanks, both the standard British .303 MkIV incendiary-tracer and the German 7.92 incendiary rounds ignited the fuel tanks with one out of 10 shots fired. However, the RAF also tested the new Mk VI \u201cDe Wilde\u201d incendiary, containing .5 grams of SR 365, which ignited on impact with a brilliant flash. Not only did the De Wilde rounds provide pilots with a welcome indication of a hit, they were twice as effective in igniting the fuel tanks.<\/p>\n<p>The MK VI was tested operationally over Dunkirk and was quickly ranked as the most desirable of all the .303 ammunition. By the time German bombers were raiding England, the MK VI was in regular service, but in short supply.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"663\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun.jpg\" alt=\"This is a photo of the left side of the standard Browning MkII RAF machine gun. Chambered in .303, the guns were not as effective as the Browning .50-caliber machined guns used by the United States of America in the war.\" class=\"wp-image-51910\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun-800x379.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun-400x189.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun-768x364.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Browning-MkII-RAF-machine-gun-600x284.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The British Browning Mk II machine gun was chambered in .303. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In the Battle of Britain, a standard ammunition load for an eight-gun British fighter was: three guns loaded with standard ball, two with AP, two with Mark IV incendiary-tracer, and one with the Mk VI De Wilde incendiary. By late 1941, the load had been simplified to half AP and half incendiary. <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Harmonization Problems<\/h2>\n<p>A great flyer may not be a good shooter. A talented marksman might not be an exceptional pilot. But an aggressive man in the cockpit with an aptitude for aerial gunnery is probably an ace.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret.jpg\" alt=\"In this photo reproduction, we see a British Boulton-Paul Defiant turret on the back of a Spitfire fighter. It had quad machine guns.\" class=\"wp-image-51911\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret-800x571.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret-400x286.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/British-Boulton-Paul-Defiant-turret-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Boulton-Paul Defiant was armed with a four-gun turret (.303 Browning Mk II). Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>During World War I, the key issue for an aircraft\u2019s forward-firing guns was \u201csynchronization\u201d, the ability to fire safely through the propeller blades. In World War II, an important issue (particularly for the RAF), was \u201charmonization\u201d, the set convergence point for wing guns.<\/p>\n<p>In 1939, RAF Fighter Command used \u201cThe Dowding Spread\u201d, a convergence point of 400 yards. This wide dispersion of bullets was thought to provide an inexperienced pilot (or a poor shooter) with more hits on a twin-engine bomber.<\/p>\n<div class=\"newsletter inline\">\n<div class=\"newsletter-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: none;\" class=\"logo-tal-icon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/thearmorylife\/img\/logo-tal-tm-icon.svg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Live The Armory Life.<\/strong> The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our <a class=\"ajax-giveaways\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/giveaways\/\"><strong>monthly gun\u00a0giveaways!<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Unfortunately for RAF fighter pilots, this was a highly optimistic appraisal of the .303 ammunition\u2019s effectiveness. The construction of the average German bomber was barely affected by a few hits at 400 yards range \u2014 there were multiple Heinkel and Junkers bombers that absorbed more than a hundred hits from .303-caliber MGs and still made it home.<\/p>\n<p>It soon became apparent that the Spitfires and Hurricanes needed to close on their targets and deliver a devastating burst of MG fire from their eight wing-mounted machine guns at short range. The convergence point dropped to 350 yards, and then to 250 yards.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"936\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns.jpg\" alt=\"In this photo, a crewman makes adjustments to a Spitfire while reloading ammunition for its guns.\" class=\"wp-image-51912\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns-800x535.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Spitfire-Mk-I-rearming-guns-600x401.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The under-wing access panels of the Spitfire\u2019s Browning MGs. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Harmonization was to be found in close, and more German bombers were killed in a point-blank gunfight in British skies \u2014 RAF success rates rose from 39% to 53% with a 250-yard convergence setting. Closing the range dramatically increased the amount of hits, as well as the damaged caused by those that struck home.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain.jpg\" alt=\"In this image, we see a squadron of British Defiants heading out to intercept German bombers. Initially successful, the fighters were relegated to second tier status fairly quickly.\" class=\"wp-image-51913\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain-800x451.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain-400x226.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Defiant-flight-Britain-600x339.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Defiant was successful initially, and then relegated to second-line and early night fighter duties. Image:\u00a0NARA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Polish pilots of No. 303 (Kosciusko) Squadron RAF were noted to press attacks in their Hurricane fighters to within 100 yards, consequently becoming one of the highest-scoring squadrons of the entire campaign. <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Defending the Bombers: The MG 15<\/h2>\n<p>The primary defensive gun of German bombers in the Battle of Britain was the Rheinmetall MG-15 (7.92mm) fitted to the aircraft in \u201cflexible\u201d mounts. It is important to note that the MG 15 was not belt-fed, but rather the ammunition was fed from a twin-drum magazine that held a total of 75 rounds.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"526\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun.jpg\" alt=\"In this old black and white photo, we see the right side of a German MG15 machine gun.\" class=\"wp-image-51914\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun-800x301.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun-400x150.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun-768x289.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG15-machine-gun-600x225.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Luftwaffe\u2019s bomber defense gun: The MG 15 (7.92mm) and its 75-round twin-drum magazine. Image:\u00a0US Navy<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The left- and right-hand drums emptied alternately so that the gun\u2019s center of gravity was not disturbed. A leather strap was placed across the top of the magazine to allow the gunner to reload quickly with one hand. Extra magazines were carried next to each gun position, but the 75-round drum capacity severely limited the MG 15\u2019s extended firing capability.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"916\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose.jpg\" alt=\"In this B&amp;W photograph, we see a He111 bomber's glass nose. It offered good visibility, but little protection.\" class=\"wp-image-51915\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose-800x523.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose-400x262.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose-768x502.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-glass-nose-600x393.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">RAF pilots learned to attack the German bomber formations head-on, where the Luftwaffe aircraft offered the least defense and the fragile nose offered little protection. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Most MG 15 positions had a flexible tube that emptied the spent casings into a \u201ccatch bag\u201d. Even though it was only a 7.92mm weapon, a loaded MG 15 with a cartridge bag weighed 27 pounds.<\/p>\n<p>Even the most experienced gunner\u2019s ability to reload his weapon quickly enough to respond to fast-moving enemy interceptors proved problematic. Luftwaffe air gunners operated in a cramped environment while wearing cumbersome flight suits. Firing at 1,000 rounds per minute, the MG 15 would drain its ammo load in less than five seconds \u2014 in the time it took to reload, the approaching enemy fighter could fire undisturbed.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"848\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner.jpg\" alt=\"In this image we can see the German view from the MG 15 position inside a He 111 nose. \" class=\"wp-image-51916\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner-800x485.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner-400x242.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner-768x465.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/German-MG-15-He-111-nose-gunner-600x363.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A German mans the MG 15 nose gun of the Heinkel He 111 bomber. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The ring sights for the MG 15 were adequate, but these were normally mounted on the portion of the barrel outside the aircraft \u2014 the gunner looking through the glass first and then the gunsight. Since both the RAF interceptors and German bombers used .30 caliber weapons, neither side had a firepower advantage, but German gunners had no \u201cstand-off\u201d ability with the MG 15, as it did not have the range or striking power to keep the Hurricanes or Spitfires at bay. The arrangement of the German bombers\u2019 defensive armament was less than optimal as well. Regardless of the Luftwaffe bomber type, RAF interceptors were never deterred by \u201cmassed defensive fire\u201d. <\/p>\n<p>Inside the German bombers, there was little armor protection for the MG 15 gunners. Casualties among Luftwaffe aircrew were high, with more than 3,200 killed and wounded from July through October 1940. Germany\u2019s bomber force never really recovered from its losses of experienced pilots and crews. As with all WWII air forces, training aerial gunners was time-consuming and expensive, and it was never a point of focus for the Luftwaffe.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1270\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17.jpg\" alt=\"In this photo, we see a MG15 in German Dornier Do 17 bomber. \" class=\"wp-image-51917\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17-800x726.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17-400x363.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17-768x697.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-in-German-Dornier-Do-17-600x544.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An MG 15 in the nose of a German Dornier Do 17 twin engine light bomber. Image:\u00a0SA-Kuva<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>MG 15s were used as defensive guns on Dornier Do 17s, Junkers Ju 88s, Heinkel He 111s, Focke-Wulf Fw 200s, Heinkel He 115s, as well as the rear-seat gunner positions of the\u00a0<a class=\"ajax-article\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/junkers-ju-87-stuka-dive-bomber\/\">Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive bombers<\/a>\u00a0and the Messerschmidt Bf110 heavy fighter. When the MG 15 was phased out as a Luftwaffe flexible defensive gun, the weapon transitioned into an infantry MG used in reasonable numbers in the last three years of the war.<\/p>\n<p>Aboard the Heinkel He 111, Germany\u2019s workhorse bomber in the Battle of Britain, the original amount of MG 15 defensive guns was increased from three (nose, dorsal, and ventral) to six \u2014 adding two MG 15s to fire from the fuselage side windows, and one to the front of the belly gondola. Some crews added an additional MG 15 to fire upward\/forward from the glass nose.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"951\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17.jpg\" alt=\"This photograph gives us a first person view of a MG15 sight in rear of Do17.\" class=\"wp-image-51918\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17-800x543.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17-400x272.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17-768x522.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/MG15-sight-in-rear-of-Do17-600x408.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Looking through the sight of an MG 15 covering the tail of a Dornier Do 17. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Beginning with the He 111H-3, a single belt-fed \u201cfixed\u201d MG 17 was installed in the tail cone of some Heinkel bombers. This gun, ostensibly \u201caimed\u201d by the pilot using a tiny rear-view mirror, could not move at all. The best result that could be hoped for was that a stream of tracers coming from the tail of the bomber would startle an attacking pilot, spoiling his aim or convincing him to break off his attack.<\/p>\n<p>Despite their lack of defensive armament, the overall construction of the He 111 and the Ju 88 bombers provided a measure of resistance to the .303 machine guns of RAF fighters \u2014 and the Junkers and Heinkel bombers had vulcanized rubber protection for their fuel tanks.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full flush\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1267\" height=\"1400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner.jpg\" alt=\"In this photo, we see a late-war model He111 with additional machine guns in the nose gunner position.\" class=\"wp-image-51919\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner.jpg 1267w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner-724x800.jpg 724w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner-362x400.jpg 362w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner-768x849.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/He111-nose-gunner-600x663.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1267px) 100vw, 1267px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">German bombers added additional MG 15s as the Battle of Britain progressed. Here a He 111 has a second MG in its nose, firing forward and upward. Image:\u00a0Author\u2019s collection<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Meanwhile, the slender Dornier Do 17 was always vulnerable, and even though some crews mounted as many as eight MG 15s around the crew compartment, there were only two gunners available to use them. After heavy losses in daylight raids, the Dornier bombers soon began to disappear from English skies.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>Even before the Battle of Britain, the RAF wanted the destructive power of the 20mm cannon mounted in their fighters. Unfortunately, the Hispano cannon was not available in time to serve during the daylight battle. During the winter of 1941, as the Luftwaffe transitioned to night raids against British cities, the Bristol Beaufighter began to prowl the night skies.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"932\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter.jpg\" alt=\"In this image, we see a Bristol Beaufighter in flight. It arrived to late to make a impact on the Battle of Britain, but it proved its worth in other areas of the air war against Nazi Germany.\" class=\"wp-image-51920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bristol-Beaufighter-600x399.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A twin engine Bristol Beaufighter in flight over England. It was a high-speed, armored fighter suitable for interceptor duties both night and day. Image:\u00a0Australian War Museum\/Public Domain<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Beaufighters were equipped with a rudimentary radar unit, and just as importantly they carried four centrally mounted 20mm Hispano cannons (fed by 60-round drums, changed manually by the radar operator), as well as six .303 Browning MGs in the wings. A well-placed burst from a Beaufighter\u2019s cannon battery was enough to explode a German bomber. As more Beaufighters became available and their airborne-intercept radar improved, losses among the Luftwaffe night bomber force increased significantly.<\/p>\n<p>And we all know how the battle ended.<\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. Click the \u201cGo To Forum Thread\u201d link below to jump in and discuss this article and much more!<\/em><\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading heading-forum-thread hide-share\"><span>Join the Discussion<\/span><\/h5>\n<p class=\"forum-thread-button-wrapper hide-share\"><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/forum\/threads\/18249\/\">Go to forum thread<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/guns-of-the-battle-of-britain\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Tom Laemlein The German bombers of 1940 had been designed as a support aircraft \u2014 ready to attack key targets in the enemy\u2019s rear areas. \u201cStrategic bombing\u201d was not an important part of the Luftwaffe strategy nor its preparation. 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