{"id":1371,"date":"2023-08-17T20:21:25","date_gmt":"2023-08-17T20:21:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunowner-news.com\/?p=1371"},"modified":"2023-08-17T20:21:25","modified_gmt":"2023-08-17T20:21:25","slug":"ayoob-is-the-prodigy-too-big-for-ccw-or-just-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunowner-news.com\/?p=1371","title":{"rendered":"Ayoob: Is the Prodigy Too Big for CCW, or Just Right?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"byline\">By <a class=\"byline-author ajax-home\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/author\/massad-ayoob\/\">Massad Ayoob<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">I<\/span> have spent a good amount of time with the 1911 DS Prodigy, utilizing it in several different roles. For the purposes of this piece, I decided to consider its adaptability to concealed carry.<\/p>\n<p>There are concealment pistols, and concealable pistols. The former were designed to be small and to hide discreetly from public view. The second are service-size pistols of the type originally intended for carry in open holsters.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><picture decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-45930\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mas-ayoob-prodigy-for-ccw.jpg.webp 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mas-ayoob-prodigy-for-ccw-800x533.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mas-ayoob-prodigy-for-ccw-400x267.jpg.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mas-ayoob-prodigy-for-ccw-768x512.jpg.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mas-ayoob-prodigy-for-ccw-600x400.jpg.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/>\n<\/picture><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Springfield Armory Prodigy offers a lot of gun for a reasonable price. In this article, Massad Ayoob tests the gun for its use as a concealed carry pistol.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>They <em>can <\/em>be concealed with carefully selected holsters and cover garments, but it takes a bit more work on the part of the wearer, who in turn is rewarded with better ergonomics, more velocity and more easily achieved accuracy with longer barrels, <em>and<\/em> more ammunition in the roomier magazines within larger grip-frames.<\/p>\n<p><em>[Be sure to watch our <a class=\"ajax-article\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/springfield-prodigy-torture-test-review\/\">10,000 Round Prodigy Torture Test<\/a>.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Prodigy is a relatively big 1911-pattern pistol with an even larger grip. Simply put, it has a big butt, and the butt is a major factor in concealment. At the front of the gun we have square edges, both at the muzzle and along the dust cover, which is designed with integral rails to hold white light or light\/laser attachments. Moreover, the stippled grip surface, though a huge advantage when the gun is in hand, can catch on fabric and lift the garment to reveal the pistol when it is carried concealed.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Solutions<\/h2>\n<p>You conceal the Prodigy basically the way you would any other large pistol. Make sure the concealing garment has enough drape to cover its bulk. The smoother the inside surface of the fabric of the concealing garment, the less likely the stippled grip will catch it and cause the pistol to become visible.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><picture decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-45939\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig.jpg.webp 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-800x533.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-400x267.jpg.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-768x512.jpg.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-600x400.jpg.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1400\" height=\"933\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig.jpg\" alt=\"prodigy in an owb kydex rig\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/prodigy-in-an-owb-kydex-rig-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/>\n<\/picture><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">With a quality rig, the Springfield Armory Prodigy can be concealed and carried for self-defense. Image:\u00a0Gail Pepin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The tighter the holster holds the handgun to the body, the less it\u2019s going to bulge. And inside the waistband carry will maximize concealment, not only holding everything in tighter but allowing the pants to break up the outline of the holstered weapon. In addition, the cover garment can ride all the way up to the bottom edge of the belt where the inside-the-waistband (IWB) holster\u2019s belt loops are and still not reveal the gun\u2019s presence.<\/p>\n<p>In the case of the Prodigy, the butt circumference is exaggerated. Its additional flare is designed to speed up reloads and facilitates that very well, but it also requires a little more attention to concealment. Be thinking in terms of a cover garment about one size larger through the torso than you might normally wear if you weren\u2019t carrying a gun.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><picture decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-45941\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb.jpg.webp 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-800x533.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-400x267.jpg.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-768x512.jpg.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-600x400.jpg.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1400\" height=\"933\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb.jpg\" alt=\"carrying a prodigy in a leather arsenal iwb\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/carrying-a-prodigy-in-a-leather-arsenal-iwb-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/>\n<\/picture><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The author\u2019s Prodigy is perfectly concealed under LL Bean sport coat in Elmer MacEvoy Summer Surprise IWB holster. Image:\u00a0Gail Pepin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Prodigy comes with 17- and 20-round magazines. (26-round magazines are also available from the Springfield Armory webstore.) Obviously, the 17-rounder is the one you want in the gun to reduce protrusion. Not only that, but even in open carry the longer magazine could be troublesome with a hip-holstered gun when you sit down, forcing you to push that side of your hip forward in the seat, which can lead to short-term discomfort and long-term back problems.<\/p>\n<p>Frankly, I found the shorter 17-round magazine both more comfortable and more concealable in the spare mag pouch as well. During the test, I saved the longer magazines for swapping into the Prodigy for shooting on the range, and for \u201cbedside home companion\u201d security.<\/p>\n<div class=\"newsletter inline\">\n<div class=\"newsletter-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: none;\" class=\"logo-tal-icon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/themes\/thearmorylife\/img\/logo-tal-tm-icon.svg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Live The Armory Life.<\/strong> The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our <a class=\"ajax-giveaways\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/giveaways\/\"><strong>monthly gun\u00a0giveaways!<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>My friend Sam Young carries a big Springfield 9mm daily, which happens to be the <span class=\"nowrap\">XD-M<\/span> with long butt to hold a 19-round magazine, and equipped with a 5.25\u201d barrel. His holster choice is strong-side hip with an El Paso IWB leather rig. He finds it eminently comfortable because, like all of us who regularly carry inside the waistband, he has learned to buy pants 2\u2033 larger than normal at the waist.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><picture decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-45942\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy.jpg.webp 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-800x533.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-400x267.jpg.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-768x512.jpg.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-600x400.jpg.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1400\" height=\"933\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy.jpg\" alt=\"massad ayoob conceals a full size prodigy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-conceals-a-full-size-prodigy-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/>\n<\/picture><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">With a Leather Arsenal IWB rig and a sport coat, the author is easily able to carry a Prodigy concealed. Image:\u00a0Gail Pepin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>My choices for the concealed carry part of the Prodigy test were a similar leather IWB from Elmer MacEvoy at Leather Arsenal, and for outside the waistband, a Kydex outside-the-waistband (OWB) by Bullseye. The latter had only slightly more \u201cbulk and bulge\u201d than a leather Mitch Rosen belt scabbard with a standard configuration full size 1911 .45. Both offered a very quick draw. The IWB hid the pistol easily under a sport coat or suitcoat.<\/p>\n<p>For the spare magazine carry, I chose a Pitbull expandable carrier which proved surprisingly concealable and very comfortable. Of course, it could hold a longer mag if needed, but I found the 17-round to be enough and more comfortable and concealable. A second 17-rounder if needed fit comfortably and discreetly in the left side cell phone pocket of my 5.11 cargo pants, alongside a Streamlight Wedge flashlight.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Bottom Line<\/h2>\n<p>Body size and shape are definite factors in concealed carry. Being closer to the \u201cbefore\u201d picture in the Charles Atlas Bodybuilding ads than the \u201cafter\u201d picture, yours truly is not the ideal person to carry the Prodigy discreetly concealed in every environment. It\u2019s better suited to a larger person, but my testing proved it\u2019s not at all impossible for someone my size.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><picture decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-45943\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy.jpg.webp 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-800x533.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-400x267.jpg.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-768x512.jpg.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-600x400.jpg.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1400\" height=\"933\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy.jpg\" alt=\"massad ayoob carries a prodigy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/massad-ayoob-carries-a-prodigy-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/>\n<\/picture><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The author found the Springfield Armory Prodigy was reliable and carried well during his testing. Image:\u00a0Gail Pepin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Reliability is a non-negotiable baseline in the selection of defensive firearms. In hundreds of rounds through many hands, some under pressure in national-level competition, the test Prodigy fed and cycled 100%. I had only two minor problems with it. On one occasion, I found that my forearm had apparently hit the outboard lever of the ambi thumb safety and wiped it down into the \u201cfire\u201d position while it was in the IWB holster. This is an \u201cambi thing\u201d and not a Springfield thing; I personally prefer a lower profile on an outboard ambi lever for this reason. Also, the set screw holding the rear sight in place fell out, sidelining the pistol in a gun bag until I could get a replacement, which Springfield Armory shipped to me immediately in keeping with their usually excellent customer service.<\/p>\n<p>I completed the test very happy with the Prodigy, which I consider ideally suited to home defense use with light or light\/laser mounted and the long magazine in place. I carried it with Winchester 127-gr. +P+ Ranger hollow points, which run at 1,250 foot-seconds from a 4.0\u201d barrel and a bit hotter from the 5.0\u201d tube of this particular Prodigy. That\u2019s equivalent to .357 Magnum out of a snubby revolver, and takes any worry out of carrying a 9mm instead of a .45, for those concerned about that. When Springfield Armory wants this gun back, they\u2019ll be getting a check instead of a pistol.<\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. Click the \u201cGo To Forum Thread\u201d link below to jump in and discuss this article and much more!<\/em><\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading heading-forum-thread hide-share\"><span>Join the Discussion<\/span><\/h5>\n<p class=\"forum-thread-button-wrapper hide-share\"><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/forum\/threads\/15926\/\">Go to forum thread<\/a><\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading heading-featured hide-share\"><span>Featured in this article<\/span><\/h5>\n<section class=\"featured hide-share grid-two\">&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"product series-1911ds \" href=\"https:\/\/www.springfield-armory.com\/1911-ds-series-handguns\/1911-ds-prodigy-handguns\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"caliber\"><span class=\"cal-\"\/><\/span>&#13;\n\t\t\t\t\t<picture loading=\"lazy\" style=\"\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/PH9119AOSD-v2.png.webp\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/PH9119AOSD-v2.png\" alt=\"1911 DS Prodigy\u2122 Series\"\/>\n<\/picture>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<h3>1911 DS <span>Prodigy\u2122 Series<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"product series-other \" href=\"https:\/\/www.leatherarsenal.com\/surprisespecial\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"caliber\"><span class=\"cal-\"\/><\/span>&#13;\n\t\t\t\t\t<picture loading=\"lazy\" style=\"max-width: 69.5%;\"><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/leather-arsenal-surprise-special-holster-product.jpg.webp\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/leather-arsenal-surprise-special-holster-product.jpg\" alt=\"Leather Arsenal Surprise Special\"\/>\n<\/picture>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<h3>Leather Arsenal <span>Surprise Special<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a><\/section>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thearmorylife.com\/ayoob-is-the-prodigy-too-big-for-ccw\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Massad Ayoob I have spent a good amount of time with the 1911 DS Prodigy, utilizing it in several different roles. For the purposes of this piece, I decided to consider its adaptability to concealed carry. There are concealment pistols, and concealable pistols. 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